BEIRUT, LEBANON (9:00 A.M.) – Israel will begin a new air defense project that will concentrate on the potential threats posed by Iran from Iraq, the Arabic-language version of the Sputnik News Agency reported on Monday, citing Israeli media.

Sputnik reported that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced during a cabinet meeting on Sunday that a new air defense project was in the works to protect Israel in case of a cruise missile attack from Iraq.

“The defense project will focus on dealing with cruise missiles, and will require new billions of shekels for the Israeli Ministry of Security,” Netanyahu said, as quoted by Sputnik.

“The session discussed the possibility of an Iranian attack on Israel, similar to the air attack on two Saudi oil facilities in early September,” Sputnik quoted the Israeli state broadcaster as saying.

Citing the Al-Kabinet channel, the report said Netanyahu “examined the scenario of an exposure of Israeli facilities to the Iranian cruise missiles in light of the escalating tensions with Iran.”

“There is a possibility of launching cruise missiles into Israel through Iraq. The need for the aerial project has increased after the recent attack in Saudi Arabia against Saudi oil installations, which was attributed to Iran,” the head of the research department of the Israeli intelligence division was quoted as saying .

“The project, which Netanyahu is seeking to pursue, will require cuts in civilian budgets and tax increases. The allocation of the full budget for the project will mostly wait for the next government,” the commission said.

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The $290M cost of this project is nothing special, it’s about the quarter of what India or Turkey pay for a single S-400 battery. This would pay for likely 5 NBS MANTIS batteries (6 turrets w. any combination of 35mm guns or Laser-guns) or 2 additional Iron-Dome batteries+reloads…

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added with likely two EL/M-2083 ‘blimp’ radars. I know there were talks about buying MANTIS a few years ago.
There may be other stuff considered, after all, I have no infos about the project but :

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1. A few more EL/M-2083 would allow full coverage+targetting on low flying objects.
2. MANTIS/Skyshield is obviously the most efficient short range protection system against incoming drones, missiles, bombs, shells and rockets. It can also be

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EZ moved and also protect communities too close from Gaza where Iron Dome has not enuff time 2 react.

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3. More Iron Dome batteries is also a good option as it offers a 70km radius protection. 2 batteries completed with an EL/M-2083 airborne radar are great fits too.

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So stupid question, Saudi Arabia spent over the last few years, over 300 billion dollars on US military equipment, and they didn’t stop, depending on propaganda, Houthis, Iranian, or given the English markings on the KSA presentation of the missile debris, NATO cruise missiles (a CHAMP EW cruise missile, given markings) that destroyed their oil facilities, why didn’t they have at least the blimps or airborne radars? Doesn’t make sense. I also read the blimps don’t work well, but that was only one article. I’m almost certain the Saudis had CIWS like the Phalanx already protecting their facilities for point… Read more »

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Wrong. The only conclusion making sense is KSA having let the strike happening.

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No CHAMP cruise missile, these DEFINITIVELY don’t look like the remains

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The missile remains are CLEARLY a Houthi/Iran Quds-1. It uses a Czech PBS TJ-100 engine which Iran took profit of JCPOA to buy it in numbers (dual use engine)

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The Elta EL/M-2083 blimp radar is Israeli, KSA is still not ready to buy from Israel. Thus an E-3 Sentry was patrolling, one of the reasons I think they saw the attack coming.

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Some systems (the Indian ones) have been delivered with a Russian aerostat from RosAeroSystems, India considering the IAI balloon to expensive…

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Frankly, at about $22M for a 400km coverage on jet-fighters and 200km for cruise missiles, this is VERY cheap! I suppose the article you refer to is from India, right?

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Saudis haven’t the Centurion C-RAM (land version of Phalanx), they have Oerlikon Skyguard doubled with Crotale SHORAD SAMs.

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With Crotale radar+IR+EO sensors, no detection within 10km in this kind of open terrain? ROFL! SkyGuard is very efficient too. You should highlight their failure, if they were activated…

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Patriot is mainly for anti-ballistic job. They don’t have 88 Patriot systems, it’s the number of launchers. They have 14 batteries of 6 launchers + 4 spare launchers

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There is no “PAK 3”. PAC-3 is one of the type of missiles a Patriot battery can use. PAC-2, PAC-3 MSE and now the new PAAC-4 are available.

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PAC-2 = 160km, 4 per launcher. PAC-3/3 MSE : 20km/35km; 16 per launcher : 4 cannisters of 4. PAAC-4 : 160km, 16 per launcher. it’s Rafael+Raytheon made

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Neither Patriot (nor S-400) are the best money can buy. I wouldn’t buy any of both in fact! I’m not saying they are bad at all, you can work with both, but if you consider buying a single system will do the trick, you’re 100% wrong.

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In fact, both Patriot or S-400 are pretty bad bargains at about $1.1 and $1.2BN per battery.

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SAMP/T : 6 launchers of 8 Aster-30 (120km) : $191M, New 500km ranges Aster is coming very soon.
Iron-Dome : 4 launchers of 20 Tamir, 70km : $100M

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Rheinmetall MANTIS will make your day for point defense for €52M

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IAI Arrow-3 costs the price of a PAC-3 MSE ($3M) and can intercept ballistic missiles at 2,400km and even satellites. Launchers of 6

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Thales GS-1000, EL/M-2083, Diginext Stradivarius, ONERA Nostradamus, Raytheon AN/TPY-2 as radars to complete, then you have the best money can buy

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I’d like to have the Russian Nebo-M VHF radar as a complement. Sad it has no Link-16 for network purposes. In the end, I’d only buy an US and a Russian long range radars

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For the US, Patriot is not alone, and they are up to date (360° coverage). You forget Centurion, Iron-Dome, THAAD, GMD, Aegis/Aegis-Ashore, array of satellites with radars+IR sensors

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and many other systems you probably don’t know about. US have systems others money CAN’T buy. EU may if we build an EU-Armed Force, but as long armies will be national : nope

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US may not accept to sell their top notch systems even to closest allies. Only UK received Tomahawks+Trident, no F-22 or A-10 exports and Israel+Japan wanted F-22 badly.

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Tomahawks were refused to Israel. Well, Israel created the Popeye and Popeye-Turbo as surrogates…

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You may have missed serious points : US are definitively shaping 21st century warfare, most of others try to copy

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There is stuff I’d buy from USA, but mostly not what their usual clients buy : ELINT/SIGINT/COMINT, Sat cameras, Dragon-Skin, NIJ Level-3 helmet, XM395 mortar shell, Tracking Point, some radars like AN/TPY-2…

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Who said? Your buddy Pompeo 🙂

Marg bar jomhuri Eslami
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Me. It’s just logics!
Pompeo is not my buddy : I consider USA are really acting too weak, even Bolton wasn’t enough harsh to my taste on some cases, and uselessly hard line on cases where it was stupid to be such a dïck.

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Rusi by mali byť ťažšie pre vás Izraelčanov.